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                    "text": "Regent Tammi Dukes\nNot Present\nRegent Charles Moyer, PhD\nPresent\nRegent Robert Ramsey, Sr.\nPresent\nDr. James Tidwell\nPresent\nMs. Christina Jones\nPresent\nRegent Edward Hatchett, Esq.\nPresent",
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